winchester blind side ammo

moosehunter09 Said:
they had slides that showed it from an imp cyl, mod and full chokes but who knows.
 
i wonder how they make them? and how lead ones would preform.  i shot a couple boxes of the prarie storm this year and it knocks roosters down dead. no chasing them through the crp

Horsager Said:
More rounder is more better as it relates to shot.  Flats, edges, wings, blades, saturn rings, etc are all bad.  Any improvement made with lead or steel is all about the propellant or the wad, and to a smaller degree possibly the choke.

I'll say it again in case folks missed it the 1st time.  Round is best.  Every step away from perfectly round is a step in the wrong direction.

Sotaman Said:
I know it would be expensive but why not the same concept as that of a golf ball.  I have heard a golf ball would barely fly a hundred yards if not for the dimples. 

fear_no_fish Said:

moosehunter09 Said:
they had slides that showed it from an imp cyl, mod and full chokes but who knows.
 
i wonder how they make them? and how lead ones would preform.  i shot a couple boxes of the prarie storm this year and it knocks roosters down dead. no chasing them through the crp

Last year I shot pheasants dead with normal lead, Its not the shot its the shooter..........

snow Said:
Exception to round sphere shot "Hevi shot" (non-steel),oblong pellet shot,some pellets almost tear drop shaped,patterns excellent and retains as much if not more down range energy than lead and very few flyers outside a 30" circle at 50yds (I/M extended long range choke).Very dense,almost like a basket ball.

When remington put this ammo out they re-invented this shot shell and did a hellofa job,pushed emviro metal to the wayside the 1st year,they used their own full shot cup (not a two piece),shot buffer and nitro primer and built the plat form for the best non-tox shotgun ammo on the market today,maybe even better than lead in my book~Not sure why remington lost the distrubtion rights tho? maybe it was a short term deal to get this product going,but the pellets are far from being round,they are made up of tungsen iron,nickle and tin,there for the shot density and weight=down range energy more so than any steel shot and using a smaller diameter pellet putting more pellets on target at a price,its not for everyone and for over dekes close in its an over kill.

The best of both worlds is Hevi Metal,this load competes with other hi-end ammo on the market in price but is a combination of steel shot and smaller diameter tungsen (20% more pellets compared to all one size)even the tungsen pellets are not perfectly round but the ammo patterns beautifully when paired with the right choke.

Changes are in the works from enviro metals hevi shot loads,one being a new shot cup as you say and a new shot hull/primer to maximize performance even more.

When I get some samples Clay I'll send you a few rounds to check out if your interested.

Tim