Special Deer lottery survey

Oh great here we go again. These are LAWS not the Game & Fish Dept. LAWS. The LAWS are set by the House & Senate of North Dakota. Remember the regulations on State Seasons are set by House & Senate and are signed by the Govenor of North Dakota. All the Game and Fish do is set the amount of tags that they believe sould be issued because of surveys and deer counts ect. If you want the LAWS to be changed talk to your Rep. in your district. I like the way it is. From now on I'm putting in other states as well so I have a chance to get a tag someweres anyway. Remember that the Deer seasons are set because of LAWS!

I like the idea but nothing ever goes the way we want it to. I would pay the extra many for the chance to hunt anywhere in the state. I think it should be a GO!!!!!!!!!

South Dakota does something like this they split it east and west river. It is 155 dollars  for a resident and good only on private land. My guess is if ND did this it would be similar to this high price.

To implement this, you or your buddy will need a Sen or Rep to carry this bill to the Leg. Cost, number of permits, type of permits etc... would all need to be layed out before hand.

Myself, I could support this idea with the premiss that it would be like the moose or elk tags with no preference points and a non refundable fee for covering the cost of administration. I think if you get a sponsor, then the G&F would have some input or ideas in regards to what type of tag it would be, such as any antlered or antlerless species specific etc... Also the number of tags they would consider reasonable to issue.


My comments are intended to get you thinking about this as now would be a very good time to do this as something like this because of the complexity of the idea involved. 

I have a hard time seeing how someone would benefit from putting in for a lottery like this. I know for myself I put in for the unit I like hunting the most. Even if I did get a tag like the one in question I'd still be hunting in the same unit.  So why would I pay more for this tag and on top of that my odds of drawing a special tag like this would be way worse than if I just put in for the unit I wanted to hunt in the first place.

With that being said I'd be all for the idea as long as they couldn't put in for the regular lottery on top of it.. It would mean that many less people putting in for the unit I am currently hunting in.

A lot of states give away Supertags good for anywhere in the state for any season.  I know AZ, MT, and Utah do for sure i believe utah is for residents only and they call it a sportsmans tag.  But the main attraction in those states for a special tag like that is that they have actual TROPHY UNITS.  So if you draw a tag like that you can go hunt an awesome unit and have a chance to hunt a trophy unit.  As we all know ND has no "trophy units" as our GF manages for opportunity not quality.  So what would be the big draw for this tag?   Being able to go and shoot and 130" dink in another unit somewhere else in the state? woohoo.  We already have 2 tags that you can use statewide the are an archery tag and muzzleloader tag.  And one of them you can go buy every year for 20 bucks.  Just my .02 with no "Trophy Units"  in our state i just don't see the excitement for a tag like this.

I like the idea .but no out of staters should be included.so the instaters dont get skrewed on deal......

I like the idea.  Easily approachable for the reps and NDGF shouldn't have an issue with supporting it.  My question to hardwater, why not allow preference points?  I understand both sides.  Just wanted another take.

I wouldn't mind the idea, but these are just some quick thoughts that come to mind about it:

1. The cost would obviously be much higher than just $20 more.  I'm not sure how to come up with a price on it, and I do think that it should be open to non-residents, but at a greater cost.
2. The G&F have their management goals.  The plan would likely have to fit into those goals, which would mean that the amount of tags given for this "SuperTag" would mean reduction of tags in other units for the regular deer lottery.  Of course, the reduction per unit would be small, but I can already hear the cries at Advisory Meetings, "You reduced my chances at a buck tag in my unit, by dropping the number of buck tags by 2!"  LOL!
3. There would probably have to be a split, instead of statewide.  For example, a SuperTag for mule deer (in the well-known mule deer units) and then the rest of the state for whitetail/mule deer.  Otherwise, as you mentioned you could have a bunch of people heading to the Badlands to find a monster muley.
4. I think that if this were done, it should be restricted to bucks only.  I also think that if this is going to be done with the idea of a "trophy" in mind, that there should be antler restrictions.  None of this shooting a spike or forkhorn stuff the last day to fill your tag.  =o)  I'm sure this would be controversial though.
5. As mentioned, this would have to go through the legislature.  However, it is a good idea to get G&F support for it, but this is where I see a problem.  I have been to an Advisory meeting when a similar idea of "Trophy Units" was brought up and Terry Steinwand was very clear that he was not in favor of such an idea.

Like I said, I don't mind the idea, but I think it's a longshot.  I suppose I would end up falling into the category of those that are satisfied with how things are run now.

-Justin

I think the system we have now works just fine but I am all for throwing in a little twist.  Put a $100 price tag on it and you have $10,000 to the G&F.  Refunded if unsuccessful of course.  I think it's an interesting idea.  Kind of like the Montana Supertag.  I have nothing against NR's as I hunt out of state but would like to see it be a resident only tag.  You could get specific and say 50 Any Whitetail tags and 50 Any Mule deer tags. 

I would love to have a rifle tag good for the entire state. I enjoy hunting new areas and many old areas. This year I doe hunted in 4 different units (gun and muzzy). I would suggest making it a small number that would not significantly affect the population in any unit, make the application fee non-refundable and also implement the idea I mentioned before about auctioning off 1 or 2 tags/unit off to the highest bidder. While I agree with kdm about not making hunting a rich man's sport but the auction would allow all those "real buck hunters" who want to raise buck prices to get "their" buck tag every year. They just have to prioritize their finances to pay for it. Then earmark all the funds for increasing PLOTS.

Without any true  TROPHY UNITS in the state what would the main attraction for this type of tag be???