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Reloading Question

by drayweb , Posted to Fishing Buddy on 12/28/2010 04:54 AM \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	I loaded some cartridges for this old rifle that I have. It's a 30 Remington calibre, which is similar to a 30-30 Winchester. Since it's an obsolete calibre, I couldn't find any load data in my Hornaday reloading book that I have, so I went to this website and found something. Well, yesterday I took the gun out and chronographed my reloads and compared them to the factory ones that I have, and mine are about 250 fps slower. I'm using the same grain bullet, but it's a .308 diameter, compared to the factory, which are .307. I don't think that would make much of a difference. I'm right at the maximum powder according to the website, which is 35 grains. I then compared the maximum powder charge for a 30-30 in the book to the website, and for the type of powder that I'm using (760 Winchester), the book was 4 grains higher than the website. I'm wondering if I can increase the powder in my loads. I noticed that the primers on my shells were bulged out a bit after firing. Too much pressure? Here's the website that I found the reloading data on. http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

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Re: Reloading Question by kkollman on 12/28/2010 10:23 AM \| Reply #1 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
kkollman Joined: 07/04/2009 Location: ND	Dray,the bulged primer,is not always high pressure.It could be headspace problems.I personally won't push it.Stay with lower pressures nad slow burning powder.JMHO
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Re: Reloading Question by drayweb on 12/28/2010 6:40 PM \| Reply #2 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	I talked to the gunsmith at Gun City and he said that the bulged primer is due to low pressure in the cartridge. He said to only resize the neck of the case next time. Which is a faster burning powder, the Winchester 748 or 760?

Re: Reloading Question by kkollman on 12/28/2010 7:17 PM \| Reply #3 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
kkollman Joined: 07/04/2009 Location: ND	748 is a faster burning powder,the hodgdson site you are useing appears very conservative,you should be able to work your load up some.If you are neck sizeing ,because that should help on the headspaceing.Don't get crazy that has to be an older gun.What is the make and model?
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Re: Reloading Question by drayweb on 12/28/2010 8:43 PM \| Reply #4 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	It's a Remington Model 14 pump action rifle.

Re: Reloading Question by drayweb on 12/28/2010 8:47 PM \| Reply #5 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	I requested a couple older reloading books at the library. Hopefully they will have something for that calibre in there. I found this on the internet. Maybe I should try the IMR 3031 with the Remington Core Lokt bullets instead of the Hornady Interlok. http://www.chuckhawks.com/30_Rem.htm

Re: Reloading Question by drayweb on 12/28/2010 8:56 PM \| Reply #6 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	What if I tried a hotter primer, say like a CCI 250, instead of the CCI 200? Would I get more velocity?

Re: Reloading Question by Allen on 12/28/2010 9:22 PM \| Reply #7 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
Allen Joined: 01/09/2002 Location: ND	Really, isn't this kind of like milking an old cow for her last few drops when you should just be glad she still lets you get your hands on the teats? Guess I am curious as to why the extra couple hundred ft/s is a big deal when this is obviously a caliber that went the way of the dinosaurs for a reason.
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Re: Reloading Question by drayweb on 12/29/2010 04:24 AM \| Reply #8 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	Allen Said: Really, isn't this kind of like milking an old cow for her last few drops when you should just be glad she still lets you get your hands on the teats? Guess I am curious as to why the extra couple hundred ft/s is a big deal when this is obviously a caliber that went the way of the dinosaurs for a reason. Because 1756 fps doesn't have much knock down power. I might want to use it for deer hunting again someday.

Re: Reloading Question by drayweb on 12/29/2010 06:05 AM \| Reply #9 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
drayweb Joined: 12/19/2001 Location: ND	I did notice that the Hornady Interlok bullets are more pointed than the Remington Core Lokt in the factory rounds. When I chamber one of my reloads, there's a rifling ring around the tip of the bullet. Perhaps the cartridge in getting seated further in the chamber creating more headspace.

Re: Reloading Question by kkollman on 12/29/2010 11:29 AM \| Reply #10 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
kkollman Joined: 07/04/2009 Location: ND	That model 14 is a nice old gun and has some collector value.I personnally woun't mess with it much.You can use any load that a30-30 win. would load .But don't push the limit.No scense in mesing up a nice old collector,when you have a rack full of guns,that will do the job better.1800 fps with a 170 grain 308. is ok on deer out to 200 yd.and with out sights the gun is just about self limiting.
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Re: Reloading Question by kkollman on 12/29/2010 11:38 AM \| Reply #11 \| "Quote" \| "Quick Reply" \|
kkollman Joined: 07/04/2009 Location: ND	If your bullet is getting rifling marks. It mean the bullet is touching the lands.NOT GOOD.This can cause excessive presure. You need to seat the bullet deeper.
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